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hey people I gotta take a second to tell

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you about something we do around here

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called the THC money bomb what I do is

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every five episodes I total up the

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donations I've gotten in that period of

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time and half keeps me and the show

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going I take the other half and I gift

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that back to a random listener so far

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we're hitting about 500 each round and I

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couldn't be happier about it so consider

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throwing in five or ten bucks it's

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cheaper than a hand at the blackjack

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table with better odds and a scratch-off

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ticket plus you know half supports a

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show you like and at the very least half

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will go to a like-minded person who

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could probably use a nice surprise in

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these troubled times when you make a

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donation I can see your email address

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and that's how I picked the winner but

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to keep things kosher you can also get

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in the pool by sending your info on a

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postcard to me Greg carlwood P.O box

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635-223 San Diego California

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92163 I got no subscription fees here no

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paid archives no paid bonus shows and I

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want to keep it that way on principle

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but I'm not a millionaire at the podcast

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on the side this is it for me and I'm

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the only one I know is trying to help

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the people out as well that's my man so

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help me help you if you want to play

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along go to the higher sidechats.com

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donate and get in the game dollars

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Bitcoins it's all good to me and that's

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his aim was to reassure the common man

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that our society would recover from its

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how's it going people smoking a little

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smoke drinking a little drink in Sunny

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San Diego I'm Greg carlwood and wow I

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have done it people we did really you

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have freed me I resigned from my day job

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as a store manager at GameStop I now run

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this show and print conspiracies and

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that is it I definitely took a pay cut

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but the support has been huge and I

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think this is going to be enough to get

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me through I love doing the show so much

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thank you for listening I love getting

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more and more people to explore wild

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ideas and Fringe theories and so really

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I work for you now and I am happy to do

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so if you go to our new subreddit Higher

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Side chats you can request guests and

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topics discuss past shows and we can

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have a little more of a community going

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which I would love to see and now I'm

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going to keep pushing to free more and

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more of you people from an unhappy Cog

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in the wheel Life One money bomb at a

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time and now that I have my freedom back

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I can work on all sorts of little

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serious death and rebirth probably the

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most pivotal moment in my life and what

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a perfect episode for this to align with

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we've got Michael Rupert from the film

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collapse and the new Vice documentary

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series apocalypse man

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and Mike's gone through a similar change

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himself he's a real badass he's one of

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my most respected people and I was

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honored to have him on here so let's get

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to it here's your higher education and

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then we're on the other side with

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Michael ruperts hi everybody

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over the past month I've been visiting

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towns Across America talking about what

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our country needs to secure a better

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bargain for the middle class

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some form of higher education

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that sounds like a prequel to Avatar at

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least eight people were killed when

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armed tribes men launched an attack on

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repairing an oil pipeline that had been

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blown up last month in South East Yemen

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six soldiers guarding the crew and two

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tribesmen were killed in the assault

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which succeeded in halting work on the

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line linking Yemen's oil fields to the

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export facility on the Arabian Sea the

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pipeline with a capacity of a hundred

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and twenty thousand barrels per day was

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unidentified assailants disrupting an

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important source of revenue for the

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you can't do that but these disgruntled

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to pressure the government to provide

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jobs settle land disputes or free

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relatives from prison tensions between

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the government and tribes have been

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running particularly High since early

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December when an important Chief was

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killed in a shooting at an army

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checkpoint tribesmen in the area of

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course have denied carrying out the

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explosions but have said they would not

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allow the government to make repairs

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until it handed over the soldiers who

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killed their chief I would say this is

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totally reasonable it seems a bit weird

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to think about how industrialized modern

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societies take the stance that well it's

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good for our people it's good for the

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community and they think that tribes are

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closer to animals than they are people

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so who cares what they think it reminds

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gathering this desert festival and there

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was a local Indian chief there talking

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about how when us white folks landed

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here we set up this legal framework to

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own the land and then we take Native

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Americans to court and ask them to

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produce a deed to the land and of course

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they didn't have that and so with courts

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and laws and judges and deeds we pushed

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them off the land that they've always

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had and we didn't have to feel guilty

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about it because what we did was legally

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okay it was morally right because we had

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the paperwork that's the little mental

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trick that they'll put themselves

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to not have to own up to doing terrible

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shitty things to people who are on the

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other side of the coin

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modern civilization says well we need

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this land we need this pipeline I'm

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sorry if it's not convenient for you

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but unless you have some paperwork that

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says we can't put this here then you can

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just go [\h__\h] yourself why don't you just

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go get a car and we'll give you a free

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tank on us it's funny because we might

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think of laws and regulations as devices

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to provide fairness and freedom but

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that's just the cover story for people

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who make laws and regulations they just

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provide that legal justification for

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doing whatever they want I mean our

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president right now is a lawyer how's

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that working out

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another big thing people are talking

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about this week is this sudden influx

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Banker suicides or at least ruled

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suicides now we've had strings of this

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before and not much has happened but it

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really makes some people wonder if a

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huge financial collapse is right around

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the corner but here's the deal five high

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level guys in 10 days not conclusive of

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anything but worth exploring

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Mike duker who had worked for Russell

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Investments for five years was found

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dead close to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge

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in Washington State

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probably jumped off then a former senior

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executive at Deutsche Bank William

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Brooke Smith was found dead in his home

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after apparent suicide then the

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following day the next day Carl slim was

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found dead in the fourth floor of the

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Shangri-La Hotel in Bangkok police said

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got it Mr Slim was staying on the 20.

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Brodie Stevens sorry uh Mr Slim was

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staying on the 22nd floor with his wife

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and was attending a board meeting in the

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Thai Capital then the next day Gabriel

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McGee a JP Morgan employee died after

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plunging from the roof of its European

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headquarters in London then rounding out

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Banker death number five which the

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police are again ruling a suicide

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Richard Talley the founder and CEO of

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American Title Services has recently

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committed suicide by shooting himself in

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the head multiple times with a nail gun

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now these are five major International

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bankers and some are saying that it's

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because of increased pressure and

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investigation by government agencies but

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going to be held accountable so that

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sounds fishy to me and suicide by nail

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gun to the Head also a bit hardcore for

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an old rich white guy

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so where does this all may be I was

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following a thread on Reddit about these

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deaths and saw a very interesting post

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that was I guess trying to shed some

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light on what the culture is right now

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for these people check this out

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a guy named polite and white on the

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subreddit far right very fitting says I

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work as a stock broker for Piper Jaffrey

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located in LA

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what happened yesterday left me

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absolutely stunned in disbelief I

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managed the portfolios for more than

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half of our richest clients and my boss

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called me into his office and told me to

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cash them all out immediately my obvious

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thought was that there was going to be a

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crash but it sounded strange that he was

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so adamant about cashing them out he

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clearly knew something so I asked him

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what was up he spilled the beans and

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said look we're going into a currency

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crisis major banks are going to default

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in the next three weeks the stock market

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is going to go into a violent downward

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Trend not only here but around the world

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the currencies of the world are going to

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move in every direction there's no

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predicting which ones will be standing

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when this is all over it will spill into

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the bond markets here and it'll be

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interesting to see what the FED will do

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he warned whatever the FED did was not

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going to be enough to solve any problem

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when I asked him who told him this my

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boss said he talked to a buddy of his

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who happens to be an executive at JP

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Morgan I asked what triggers it and he

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said that the Chinese trust default is

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going to cause a domino effect which

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will spill into every market and every

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currency in the world he also said this

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coming week we'll have volatile trading

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and that this collapse is eminent within

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the next three weeks scary stuff guys I

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of course don't know but a lot of people

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have been talking about this for a long

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time they're kicking the can down the

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road chickens got to come home to roost

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or something like that but let's get to

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the heart of the show and talk with the

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king of collapse my man Michael C Rupert

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folks we know these are troubled times

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our society is about as stable as an

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elephant on a bowling ball and our Great

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Society is looking more and more like

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the worst sickness the Earth has ever

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gotten we're worried about the swine flu

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and the bird flu while the Earth has a

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bad case of the human flu and who knows

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at this point if it can ever recover but

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lucky for us the doctors in the house

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today's guest Michael Rupert has been

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tracking this human industrial disease

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for many years he's written two books

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confronting collabs and Crossing the

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Rubicon he's also the leading man in a

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popular expose most people here will

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know called collapse as well as the

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subject of a new six-part documentary

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done by one of my favorite media

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companies Vice called apocalypse man

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he's called out the CIA director for

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importing drugs in a courtroom on live

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TV he was the Press spokesman for Ross

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Perot and exposed the friendly fire

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killing of Pat Tillman he's the spitter

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of knowledge the beacon of light and the

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tracker of Truth Michael Rupert how the

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hell are you

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oh dear oh well I'm I'm humbled now

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thank you

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it is a real honor you've done some bold

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and Powerful things in your life and any

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one of those things is more than most

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people will ever do so uh you know

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you're redlining my respect meter man

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thank you so so very much it has been a

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long

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walk and and and at this late late uh

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stage in my life I just turned 63

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yesterday I am uh it's it's it's a

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little bit shocking after three and a

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half Decades of this work to to bask and

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enjoy and receive uh so much of the

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recognition that's coming my way now uh

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of course it's bittersweet given the

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circumstances that all of us two-leggeds

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find ourselves in right

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yeah I mean I'm glad to hear that you're

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getting more

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more of that respect let's talk about

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the state of things a little bit I mean

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I've been absorbing a lot of this

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information about collapse and peak oil

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and the massive economic crash for a

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long time now and there's always such an

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emphasis on how close we are to This

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Disaster but they keep finding a way to

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Kick the Can down the road but I mean

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these fracking problems and with the

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Fukushima Fallout these things are

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really starting to make me feel like

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we've already broken the Earth man I

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mean what do you think

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uh you know this is uh this is a

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realization that I came to in early

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2012.

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as a result of Fukushima and this was

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just as my friend and colleague guy

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McPherson professor emeritus of

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University of Arizona was concluding

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based upon a multitude of peer-reviewed

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studies uh all pointing the same

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direction that as a result of global

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warming climate chaos that uh human

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extinction was uncertainty by 2030

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mathematical science peer-reviewed

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studies but we also have the concomitant

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parallel problem of 450 nuclear reactors

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that many of most of which are well past

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their service lives they're leaking

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they're failing Fukushima is not under

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control right and we're still living in

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a world of of exponential growth the

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infinite growth Paradigm we're adding

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more than a quarter million new bodies

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to the planet a day

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uh and and Mother Earth cannot sustain

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that and and it was it was very clear to

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me in early of 2012.

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uh that uh that that there was no way

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from a Cartesian Newtonian 3D

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perspective to to science our way out of

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this uh that that perspective has been

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reinforced and confirmed During the

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period of time from when I moved to

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Northern California from Northern

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California here to Southern Colorado and

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the Rockies

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uh with with now 30 positive 30 plus

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positive reinforcing feedback loops on

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on global warming

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and uh the still out of control uh issue

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at Fukushima and and I I within the last

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two months or so I've had a really

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fundamental change in in my position we

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are in hospice as a species as a planet

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human industrial civilization and more

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important Landing is Terence McKenna

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might argue or Daniel Quinn might argue

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well Rupert sheldrick or a lot of my

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heroes might say that this this culture

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is dying it is the culture which has to

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die

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because it is a meme which is now

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obviously and transparently uh suicidal

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yeah that is a really good way to put it

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this culture does have to die I

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sometimes wonder

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how much of it and this kind of stems

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from my participation in occupy which I

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know you were a supporter of which is

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great to hear back in those days the

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biggest problem was the lack of focus

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and I'd hear people talking about this

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solution or that solution and a lot of

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them I'm like you know that doesn't go

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far enough if we win this thing and

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monsanto's still a company I don't know

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how we fixed much you know how sweeping

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does the change have to really be can we

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can we really have the change we need

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and still have corporations can we even

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still have money I mean those are big

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questions that I think need to be

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answered because For the Long Haul I

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don't know that if we keep some of these

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structures in place the same people

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aren't just going to get their hooks

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right back into us it was in 2003 when I

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was publishing my newsletter from the

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Wilderness that's where we broke the Pat

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Tillman cover up and brought down Donald

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Rumsfeld yeah it was in 2003 as I was

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deep into peak oil a couple years after

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9 11 I was right acrossing the Rubicon

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that I had an epiphany which which

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crystallized into until you change the

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way money works you change nothing

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true and and and and money is in essence

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God and that's one of the coolest jokes

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of this Paradigm if you look at the at

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any piece of paper money which you can't

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eat you can't run a car off of it it

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doesn't represent anything real

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it says in God we trust and and and the

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cruelest joke is that money has been and

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is uh still for most people on the

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planet God yeah it is their religion

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and and with fiat currency fractional

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Reserve banking uh and compound interest

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it is by definition a pyramid scheme and

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we know what happens to pyramid schemes

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the same way that we understand what

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happens to a species with unfettered

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growth whether they be a caribou or

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reindeer on an Arctic Island or bacteria

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in a Petri dish you see this unfettered

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uh rocket ship hockey stick curve of uh

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population growth followed by a complete

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collapse and that is the point at which

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we find ourselves now

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well said man I actually sometimes

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wonder a lot of the things that we've

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been taught

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that are innate to human nature I think

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are actually products of our system you

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know they say like the competition and

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the dog eat dog world I'm like is that

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just because the only system we've ever

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known is this warped capitalistic crazy

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money hungry Perpetual growth system or

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is that really part of nature because I

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think it's uh it's the system if we

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don't be evolve beyond the system of

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currency exchange we'll never really be

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free because the monetary system gives

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us these warped incentives like planned

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obsolescence and consumerism and extreme

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waste I mean it it really is hard to

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cooperate with people within the system

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of capitalism

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well here I pay great tribute to people

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like Daniel Quinn and Graham Hancock who

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is a friend who have enormous respect

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for yes uh first of all

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um it is a lie an absolute lie a

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paradigm is what you think about before

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you think about something and if you

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automatically start your thinking from a

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point of competition dog eat dog is is

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the truth you are trapped in a lie

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already science has abundantly shown us

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and that's separate from the indigenous

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Traditions which have persevered through

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all kinds of uh persecutions that that

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it's not competition that governs nature

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it's cooperation that governs nature

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that is the the species that survive are

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the ones who make themselves the most

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indispensable to all other species

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hmm

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that's the truth that's the reality yeah

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the second most successful species on

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planet Earth today is the dog

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yeah the dog man

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because it has cooperated it has made

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itself useful and indispensable whereas

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on the other hand

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human behavior for let's say the last 10

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000 years and there was a fundamental

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break in human history something

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something uh ethical something spiritual

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something archetypal whatever word you

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want to use happened to the human race

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between seven ten thousand years ago uh

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Daniel Quinn would call a totalitarian

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agriculture creating Surplus but man

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moved into a world governed by fear

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rather than love and a world addicted a

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world that was hypnotized into believing

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in separation that that that there's a

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difference between man and everything

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else and whoever wrote the first chapter

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of Genesis calling man to go out and

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subdue the world be fruitful multiply

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manage have dominion

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that's that's that's the the fundamental

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evil which has to be cured in human

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consciousness this is a crisis of

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Consciousness more than anything else

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uh before there is any hope or or any

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possibility uh and if with every passing

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day those that that possibility

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diminishes of our species and the Web of

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Life on this planet surviving 200 and

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200 250 species a day go extinct the web

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of life is being torn to shreds uh and

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Mankind cannot exist out of that from a

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jungian perspective I would say

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but what's happening now is that all of

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the Shadows that the human race has not

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faced for ten thousand years are coming

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home now to either be faced Incorporated

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and healed or to kill us yeah man it is

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scary times I I definitely see that

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crossroads happening but you know a lot

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of people talk about this Awakening and

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yeah then I see the Occupy Movement gets

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swatted down like a mosquito and that

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really crushed my spirits man but as a

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planet people seem to be fighting back

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more than ever it's it's really tough to

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know just because obviously there's a

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media blackout on this thing so it's

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really sometimes hard to know exactly

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what's going on and to get a good view

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of the landscape but I I assume that you

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think people are waking up right

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well I am very much aware because I am I

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am ever more in the in the public eye

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and my Facebook page is is hugely

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active that yes and Awakening is taking

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place all over the planet

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uh there are there are millions perhaps

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even hundreds of millions of people even

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perhaps a billion out of seven

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who who grasped that this current system

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is failing it's destructive you know as

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Einstein says you can't solve a problem

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by using the same system that created

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the problem

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um and and so I am very much encouraged

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however on from the Cartesian reality

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standpoint especially now that uh that

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climate chaos is making itself so

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abundantly clear all over the planet we

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are also running out of time options and

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solutions so this is uh this is indeed a

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prophetic time and then I would have to

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weave in here and the fact that I've

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also studied many ancient prophecies

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00:21:44,029 --> 00:21:42,179
those of Native Americans and Indigenous

548
00:21:45,950 --> 00:21:44,039
peoples around the world and this also

549
00:21:47,690 --> 00:21:45,960
does seem to be a time when many of

550
00:21:50,090 --> 00:21:47,700
those prophecies are being fulfilled

551
00:21:52,669 --> 00:21:50,100
yeah that's a Trippy element to the

552
00:21:54,590 --> 00:21:52,679
whole thing too and I mean obviously we

553
00:21:56,210 --> 00:21:54,600
just went through 2012 which was

554
00:21:57,770 --> 00:21:56,220
apparently a lot of people thought that

555
00:21:59,810 --> 00:21:57,780
was going to be something and maybe in

556
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:59,820
the grand scheme of things on a grand

557
00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:01,440
timeline maybe it was the start of

558
00:22:07,850 --> 00:22:03,900
something that hasn't manifested yet

559
00:22:10,970 --> 00:22:07,860
the Mayans and and this is part of the

560
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:10,980
lie that the meme uh human industrial

561
00:22:15,470 --> 00:22:12,960
civilization for ten thousand years has

562
00:22:18,409 --> 00:22:15,480
systematically persecuted murdered

563
00:22:20,570 --> 00:22:18,419
Massacre tortured all indigenous

564
00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:20,580
cultures it could find because let's say

565
00:22:25,970 --> 00:22:24,120
in in uh in Daniel Quinn's terms these

566
00:22:27,649 --> 00:22:25,980
were the peoples who did not participate

567
00:22:30,770 --> 00:22:27,659
in the great forgetting

568
00:22:31,610 --> 00:22:30,780
I love Quinn's uh the Quinn's statement

569
00:22:33,770 --> 00:22:31,620
that

570
00:22:36,590 --> 00:22:33,780
uh human humans have been here for four

571
00:22:38,210 --> 00:22:36,600
million years but every but in in this

572
00:22:40,190 --> 00:22:38,220
world that we live in everything prior

573
00:22:42,770 --> 00:22:40,200
to ten thousand years ago we just kind

574
00:22:46,010 --> 00:22:42,780
of in a bow called prehistoric and

575
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:46,020
discarded well that's not true mankind

576
00:22:51,710 --> 00:22:47,760
lived on this planet successfully

577
00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:51,720
happily uh for hundreds of thousands at

578
00:22:57,230 --> 00:22:55,260
at least years without war and some of

579
00:22:59,450 --> 00:22:57,240
the great archaeological finds like uh

580
00:23:02,990 --> 00:22:59,460
govekly Tepe in in turkey and many

581
00:23:05,390 --> 00:23:03,000
others show us uh civilizations and

582
00:23:08,510 --> 00:23:05,400
large cities with monuments that were

583
00:23:10,610 --> 00:23:08,520
built 10 12 15 000 years ago in

584
00:23:12,350 --> 00:23:10,620
pre-history but there are no evidence of

585
00:23:15,370 --> 00:23:12,360
battlements there's no evidence of war

586
00:23:18,409 --> 00:23:15,380
or Warriors and in uh Native American

587
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:18,419
tradition and and some of the indigenous

588
00:23:23,630 --> 00:23:21,120
cultures they all talk about an old time

589
00:23:25,310 --> 00:23:23,640
when there were when nobody knew what a

590
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:25,320
warrior was because nobody knew what war

591
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:26,159
was

592
00:23:30,770 --> 00:23:28,320
yeah man it seems like too good to be

593
00:23:32,270 --> 00:23:30,780
true it seems like uh all legends of

594
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:32,280
Atlantis or something some great

595
00:23:38,090 --> 00:23:35,520
Paradise that we once had it goes so

596
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:38,100
against the conventional view that we've

597
00:23:41,450 --> 00:23:40,080
gradually got smarter and smarter and

598
00:23:43,789 --> 00:23:41,460
that we're currently at our Pinnacle

599
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:43,799
it's harder to believe that now that I

600
00:23:49,730 --> 00:23:45,120
see more we have the Pinnacle of

601
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,740
stupidity I'm sorry I agree I agree man

602
00:23:53,870 --> 00:23:51,600
um you know I actually love apocalypse

603
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:53,880
man and you start the second portion of

604
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:57,120
it talking about technology and how that

605
00:24:01,370 --> 00:23:59,039
is obviously how we're using our

606
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:01,380
technology to destroy the planet but as

607
00:24:05,930 --> 00:24:03,120
a conspiracy show you know we have a lot

608
00:24:08,029 --> 00:24:05,940
of different guests we cast a wide net

609
00:24:11,330 --> 00:24:08,039
and some of them talk about Energy

610
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:11,340
Technologies that are suppressed or

611
00:24:14,570 --> 00:24:12,960
maybe even you know talking about the

612
00:24:17,090 --> 00:24:14,580
ancient world a lot of people talk about

613
00:24:19,549 --> 00:24:17,100
ancient societies having technologies

614
00:24:20,930 --> 00:24:19,559
that were more in line with the Earth do

615
00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:20,940
you put stock in any of that have you

616
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:23,100
seen any evidence to suggest that there

617
00:24:27,169 --> 00:24:24,720
could be a different way that would also

618
00:24:29,149 --> 00:24:27,179
not have to make these great sacrifices

619
00:24:31,789 --> 00:24:29,159
yeah but I think my explanation will

620
00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:31,799
probably open your eyes a bit I'm ready

621
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:34,260
first first let's deal with this techno

622
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:38,400
fix junk sure like I said in uh in part

623
00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:40,080
two the automobile was a technical fix

624
00:24:43,570 --> 00:24:41,700
because of the major cities in the US

625
00:24:47,450 --> 00:24:43,580
were a washing horse manure

626
00:24:50,690 --> 00:24:47,460
uh fracking is a technofix for shortages

627
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:50,700
of natural gas nuclear power is a techno

628
00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:52,559
fix for a shortage of electricity also

629
00:24:58,130 --> 00:24:56,760
weapons and uh Shale oil tar Sands all

630
00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:58,140
of these things are techno fixes and all

631
00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:00,480
they're doing is destroying anything so

632
00:25:06,169 --> 00:25:03,120
when when people talk about suppressed

633
00:25:08,750 --> 00:25:06,179
Technologies again that's a paradigm

634
00:25:10,669 --> 00:25:08,760
trap they're talking about circuit

635
00:25:12,130 --> 00:25:10,679
switches and things like that no no

636
00:25:15,409 --> 00:25:12,140
absolutely not

637
00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:15,419
none of those Technologies I can lock

638
00:25:18,169 --> 00:25:16,860
you in a bank vault with all the

639
00:25:21,049 --> 00:25:18,179
technology in the world and you will not

640
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:21,059
be able to materialize a banana because

641
00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:24,480
because the atoms aren't there uh and

642
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:26,880
and seven billion seven plus seven point

643
00:25:31,970 --> 00:25:29,279
two billion three billion uh people on

644
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,980
the planet now is is beyond the Earth's

645
00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:33,600
carrying capacity which was a billion

646
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:35,820
human beings less than a billion or so

647
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:38,159
for you know a couple hundred thousand

648
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,760
years until we uh unleash the energy of

649
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:43,200
fossil fuels and the Industrial

650
00:25:48,110 --> 00:25:46,799
Revolution however and I said this on my

651
00:25:49,490 --> 00:25:48,120
radio show I have a radio show called

652
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:49,500
the Lifeboat hour on the progressive

653
00:25:53,870 --> 00:25:51,360
radio network every Sunday

654
00:25:57,289 --> 00:25:53,880
and I have said this

655
00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:57,299
very clearly the suppressed suppressed

656
00:26:02,110 --> 00:25:59,279
Technologies are the spiritual

657
00:26:05,390 --> 00:26:02,120
Technologies

658
00:26:09,049 --> 00:26:05,400
carried by all of the indigenous peoples

659
00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:09,059
the ones who refused uh to participate

660
00:26:13,010 --> 00:26:10,799
in the great forgetting the ones who

661
00:26:14,930 --> 00:26:13,020
were not exterminated and and I pay

662
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:14,940
great tribute to all of the ancestors of

663
00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:17,279
all indigenous cultures who have

664
00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:19,980
gone through unspeakable hardships for

665
00:26:24,649 --> 00:26:21,960
thousands for hundreds and hundreds of

666
00:26:27,490 --> 00:26:24,659
generations to keep this wisdom intact

667
00:26:31,610 --> 00:26:27,500
and and I I I I practice Native American

668
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:31,620
spirituality and and I have seen these

669
00:26:37,070 --> 00:26:33,360
Technologies work but they have to do

670
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:37,080
with prayers and frequencies and means

671
00:26:43,610 --> 00:26:39,840
and methods of energetically relating

672
00:26:45,490 --> 00:26:43,620
to all life and these are technologies

673
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:45,500
that most of the people in the world

674
00:26:51,049 --> 00:26:48,240
wouldn't be able to identify or

675
00:26:53,870 --> 00:26:51,059
recognize although many more people are

676
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:53,880
waking up to this these uh this power

677
00:27:00,649 --> 00:26:57,360
now but it all comes from healing the

678
00:27:02,930 --> 00:27:00,659
fundamental belief that man is separate

679
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:02,940
from the rest of the universe which is

680
00:27:08,510 --> 00:27:05,760
something for us to manipulate

681
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:08,520
yeah we need we need to cooperate rather

682
00:27:15,470 --> 00:27:11,640
than compete with the physical world

683
00:27:17,930 --> 00:27:15,480
I totally agree I mean I guess one big

684
00:27:19,490 --> 00:27:17,940
thing that Skeptics point to that say

685
00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:19,500
you know when I bring this stuff up or

686
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:21,720
something like a resource-based economy

687
00:27:24,649 --> 00:27:23,039
they said there aren't enough resources

688
00:27:25,789 --> 00:27:24,659
to go around and I say well you know I

689
00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:25,799
think that that might just be a

690
00:27:30,529 --> 00:27:28,740
manipulation absolutely not no we're

691
00:27:32,510 --> 00:27:30,539
running out of fresh water all over the

692
00:27:35,690 --> 00:27:32,520
world they are consuming fresh water

693
00:27:39,769 --> 00:27:35,700
tables destroying rivers rivers for for

694
00:27:42,590 --> 00:27:39,779
tar Sands for fracking uh for Shale gas

695
00:27:45,890 --> 00:27:42,600
or so-called Shale oil so-called tight

696
00:27:48,350 --> 00:27:45,900
oil in North Dakota our rivers and

697
00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:48,360
streams are polluted the aquifers are

698
00:27:54,169 --> 00:27:51,240
are polluted it is absolutely foolish

699
00:27:55,730 --> 00:27:54,179
for anybody to believe that we are

700
00:27:58,430 --> 00:27:55,740
living in a world that's as full of

701
00:28:01,010 --> 00:27:58,440
resources as it was in 1400 that's

702
00:28:02,810 --> 00:28:01,020
nonsense well right but you know I know

703
00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:02,820
you're in uh the third Zeitgeist movie

704
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:04,260
their whole philosophy of a

705
00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:06,240
resource-based economy is that uh we

706
00:28:11,570 --> 00:28:09,240
should share everything and in an equal

707
00:28:15,549 --> 00:28:11,580
way and manage our resources not with a

708
00:28:18,110 --> 00:28:15,559
monetary structure but by dividing

709
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:18,120
to our to suit our needs but you don't

710
00:28:21,230 --> 00:28:19,440
think there's enough to go around so I

711
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:21,240
mean that obviously wouldn't be a proper

712
00:28:25,130 --> 00:28:22,559
solution so I mean what do you think we

713
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:25,140
could do as a as a global Community to

714
00:28:29,630 --> 00:28:26,640
make things right

715
00:28:32,930 --> 00:28:29,640
we can't and that's the fundamental

716
00:28:34,669 --> 00:28:32,940
point that we're at solution uh by

717
00:28:36,110 --> 00:28:34,679
definition again there's that Paradigm

718
00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:36,120
trap about what hearing the word

719
00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:38,460
solution give me a solution meaning to

720
00:28:42,850 --> 00:28:41,159
put things back the way they were it

721
00:28:47,810 --> 00:28:42,860
cannot be done

722
00:28:51,710 --> 00:28:47,820
not Solutions

723
00:28:54,409 --> 00:28:51,720
at this point okay uh and and I and I

724
00:28:57,169 --> 00:28:54,419
stand with a guy McPherson Carolyn Baker

725
00:29:00,769 --> 00:28:57,179
uh many people who understand that our

726
00:29:02,529 --> 00:29:00,779
species is in hospice there is no fix

727
00:29:05,149 --> 00:29:02,539
for this

728
00:29:07,250 --> 00:29:05,159
again until you change the way money

729
00:29:09,230 --> 00:29:07,260
works you change nothing and nobody has

730
00:29:12,010 --> 00:29:09,240
ever changed the way money works right

731
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:12,020
now I fully agree that is the the

732
00:29:17,810 --> 00:29:15,120
shackle on our ankle right there and and

733
00:29:20,570 --> 00:29:17,820
it is delusional at this point when we

734
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:20,580
live in a world with a with governments

735
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:22,080
especially the United States government

736
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:26,159
that are so absolutely completely

737
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:30,240
corrupt venely corrupt it is foolish to

738
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:31,200
believe

739
00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:33,840
that that that governmental system or

740
00:29:38,930 --> 00:29:35,820
economic system is going to relieve

741
00:29:40,730 --> 00:29:38,940
itself and the pollyanna's who uh who

742
00:29:43,310 --> 00:29:40,740
say well positive thinking will solve

743
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:43,320
everything uh you know they are going to

744
00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:45,600
have Terence McKenna use the term it's

745
00:29:49,549 --> 00:29:47,220
going to be a fire in a mad house when

746
00:29:51,049 --> 00:29:49,559
he talked about the eschaton uh and

747
00:29:52,850 --> 00:29:51,059
they're going to face the fire in the

748
00:29:54,610 --> 00:29:52,860
mad house there is a growing movement of

749
00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:54,620
people around the world who understand

750
00:30:00,950 --> 00:29:57,539
that that the human race is time on this

751
00:30:03,130 --> 00:30:00,960
planet is ending species go extinct all

752
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:03,140
the time true

753
00:30:07,010 --> 00:30:04,980
so

754
00:30:09,649 --> 00:30:07,020
I guess what would you advise to people

755
00:30:12,169 --> 00:30:09,659
then if there isn't really a necessarily

756
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:12,179
a solution uh what what do you think

757
00:30:16,909 --> 00:30:15,600
could be our our most positive outcome

758
00:30:21,230 --> 00:30:16,919
well

759
00:30:23,389 --> 00:30:21,240
first of all I and and and and and uh so

760
00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:23,399
many of us so many of the great thinkers

761
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:25,020
and here I include all the names that

762
00:30:27,889 --> 00:30:26,640
I've mentioned before from Atlanta to

763
00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:27,899
Hancock all of them

764
00:30:33,649 --> 00:30:31,140
do not believe that the 3D Cartesian

765
00:30:37,250 --> 00:30:33,659
reality is anything more than a prison

766
00:30:39,529 --> 00:30:37,260
cell in which we have been imprisoned

767
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:39,539
so our Liberation from that prison cell

768
00:30:45,950 --> 00:30:43,919
is at hand I do not believe in that that

769
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:45,960
when a human being dies

770
00:30:50,810 --> 00:30:48,240
uh but that's the end of everything of

771
00:30:52,490 --> 00:30:50,820
course again that's the jungian shadow

772
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:52,500
that's the ego

773
00:30:56,990 --> 00:30:54,720
presenting itself and it is from that

774
00:31:00,289 --> 00:30:57,000
place of protecting and preserving the

775
00:31:02,210 --> 00:31:00,299
ego that all of this Carnage and horror

776
00:31:03,950 --> 00:31:02,220
has come

777
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:03,960
so

778
00:31:07,310 --> 00:31:04,640
um

779
00:31:10,190 --> 00:31:07,320
what is happening

780
00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:10,200
is that first of all there is a

781
00:31:16,669 --> 00:31:13,620
tremendous Resurgence uh in in an

782
00:31:18,529 --> 00:31:16,679
interest in indigenous spirituality the

783
00:31:20,090 --> 00:31:18,539
ways that have been kept for tens of

784
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:20,100
thousands of years because that's a

785
00:31:25,070 --> 00:31:22,799
fundamental truth

786
00:31:27,649 --> 00:31:25,080
um but it also has to do with things

787
00:31:30,649 --> 00:31:27,659
like reconciliation making amends and

788
00:31:32,330 --> 00:31:30,659
the energetic spiritual attitude

789
00:31:34,130 --> 00:31:32,340
um for some reason a line from

790
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:34,140
Shakespeare from Hamlet comes to mind

791
00:31:37,070 --> 00:31:35,760
the lasso ratio there are more things in

792
00:31:40,669 --> 00:31:37,080
Heaven and Earth in our Dream Covenant

793
00:31:43,549 --> 00:31:40,679
in your philosophy so I am not trapped

794
00:31:46,130 --> 00:31:43,559
and most of us are not trapped in that

795
00:31:48,049 --> 00:31:46,140
place where oh my God we're gonna die

796
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:48,059
then that's the end of everything and we

797
00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:51,440
have to frantically blah blah blah well

798
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:54,000
we're living in a world that's been

799
00:31:59,090 --> 00:31:57,120
living that way until the credit line is

800
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,100
exhausted we've exhausted the credit

801
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:01,440
line of mother earth

802
00:32:05,870 --> 00:32:03,360
um

803
00:32:07,789 --> 00:32:05,880
but what I know from my own spiritual

804
00:32:12,010 --> 00:32:07,799
practice and also

805
00:32:17,210 --> 00:32:12,020
from uh from experiences with Ayahuasca

806
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:17,220
DMT and mushrooms that there is a a

807
00:32:22,970 --> 00:32:18,720
wonderful

808
00:32:24,250 --> 00:32:22,980
uh reality that exists outside our

809
00:32:26,450 --> 00:32:24,260
Consciousness

810
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:26,460
and that's why there's also a tremendous

811
00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:29,760
interest in DMT in Ayahuasca now

812
00:32:33,529 --> 00:32:31,320
um a growing interest in that I mean I

813
00:32:36,350 --> 00:32:33,539
stand with Graham Hancock and Joe Rogan

814
00:32:39,470 --> 00:32:36,360
and Terence McKenna on on those pages

815
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:39,480
because I've experienced it

816
00:32:44,210 --> 00:32:41,760
um but

817
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:44,220
I cannot offer you a solution that will

818
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:46,559
do anything to restore a world like we

819
00:32:51,889 --> 00:32:49,679
knew in 2007.

820
00:32:55,549 --> 00:32:51,899
before you know the economic crash of

821
00:32:58,970 --> 00:32:55,559
2008. I just used that as an arbitrary

822
00:33:00,769 --> 00:32:58,980
Benchmark that world is never ever ever

823
00:33:04,610 --> 00:33:00,779
coming back

824
00:33:07,549 --> 00:33:04,620
wow that I mean the true I'd rather have

825
00:33:10,909 --> 00:33:07,559
the truth than uh you know some empty

826
00:33:13,610 --> 00:33:10,919
positive statements and yeah it seems

827
00:33:14,930 --> 00:33:13,620
like you might be right I mean a lot of

828
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:14,940
people I've had on the show talk about

829
00:33:17,930 --> 00:33:16,559
mass extinctions like you're talking

830
00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:17,940
about and this might just be part of the

831
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:19,260
cycle maybe we've gone through many of

832
00:33:24,190 --> 00:33:21,360
these before maybe we're just in the

833
00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:24,200
middle of another one well

834
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:26,100
scientifically I think that's pretty

835
00:33:30,649 --> 00:33:28,559
clear carbon levels in the atmosphere

836
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:30,659
haven't been this high in what 400 000

837
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:34,559
years and and and the scientific data is

838
00:33:40,130 --> 00:33:37,039
is is very clear that when you get to

839
00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:40,140
carbon releases of this level you can

840
00:33:43,610 --> 00:33:41,940
also reach a Tipping Point where the

841
00:33:46,430 --> 00:33:43,620
climate change suddenly comes overnight

842
00:33:49,490 --> 00:33:46,440
four to six degrees centigrade is cooked

843
00:33:51,649 --> 00:33:49,500
in humans cannot survive at a two degree

844
00:33:54,049 --> 00:33:51,659
Centigrade rise over Baseline at the

845
00:33:56,990 --> 00:33:54,059
start of industrial civilization yeah

846
00:33:59,330 --> 00:33:57,000
and it's not just

847
00:34:02,509 --> 00:33:59,340
it's not just because

848
00:34:04,850 --> 00:34:02,519
human beings can't adapt to a hotter

849
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:04,860
temperature no human being can survive a

850
00:34:08,089 --> 00:34:06,240
wet bulb temperature it's a combination

851
00:34:10,609 --> 00:34:08,099
of humidity higher than 35 degrees

852
00:34:14,030 --> 00:34:10,619
Centigrade but the problem is is that

853
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:14,040
the plants and the animals cannot adapt

854
00:34:20,050 --> 00:34:17,399
and move fast enough in a totally

855
00:34:24,250 --> 00:34:20,060
unpredictable climate

856
00:34:28,129 --> 00:34:24,260
when you see dramatic weather extremes

857
00:34:29,869 --> 00:34:28,139
floods droughts monstrous heat waves

858
00:34:31,250 --> 00:34:29,879
like in Australia where it's been 130

859
00:34:33,950 --> 00:34:31,260
degrees recently this is only getting

860
00:34:36,169 --> 00:34:33,960
worse because at this point in time

861
00:34:38,270 --> 00:34:36,179
what we are experiencing

862
00:34:40,669 --> 00:34:38,280
in terms of weather changes is a result

863
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:40,679
of the carbon that was released into the

864
00:34:47,329 --> 00:34:43,679
atmosphere 30 years ago

865
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,339
if we consider that and we consider that

866
00:34:52,129 --> 00:34:49,919
mankind has been releasing ever more

867
00:34:54,290 --> 00:34:52,139
carbon into the atmosphere every year

868
00:34:56,270 --> 00:34:54,300
since especially since peak oil as we go

869
00:34:58,670 --> 00:34:56,280
to the more desperate means

870
00:35:01,730 --> 00:34:58,680
and and more people are on the planet

871
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:01,740
the worst is definitely Yet to Come As a

872
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:04,320
quote from guy McPherson he says the the

873
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,200
the the the the the immediate future is

874
00:35:11,329 --> 00:35:09,359
not going to be anything like the recent

875
00:35:13,490 --> 00:35:11,339
past and that's exactly what we're

876
00:35:16,370 --> 00:35:13,500
experiencing now

877
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:16,380
wow well I mean I want to figure out how

878
00:35:19,609 --> 00:35:17,520
to uh

879
00:35:21,050 --> 00:35:19,619
to best just deal with this transition I

880
00:35:23,210 --> 00:35:21,060
mean see I'm I'm living in San Diego

881
00:35:24,410 --> 00:35:23,220
I've been a house cat my whole life and

882
00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:24,420
my girlfriend and I we've been talking

883
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:26,460
more and more about trying to divorce

884
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:28,079
this system and live off the land in

885
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,720
some way but we're so uneducated in that

886
00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:32,400
area and I don't really have the money

887
00:35:36,050 --> 00:35:33,720
yet we see

888
00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:36,060
it is it's the only real alternative to

889
00:35:39,230 --> 00:35:37,560
being conventional and you're a real

890
00:35:40,849 --> 00:35:39,240
inspiration in that area man I mean how

891
00:35:43,490 --> 00:35:40,859
would you advise people who want to make

892
00:35:46,430 --> 00:35:43,500
some type of change and kind of divorce

893
00:35:48,290 --> 00:35:46,440
the system that they're stuck in well uh

894
00:35:50,450 --> 00:35:48,300
when when we made the documentary

895
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:50,460
collapse which was released in September

896
00:35:53,930 --> 00:35:52,560
of 09 it was you know fantastically well

897
00:35:55,010 --> 00:35:53,940
received we almost got an Oscar

898
00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:55,020
nomination

899
00:35:59,450 --> 00:35:57,000
uh all the critics loved it it was it

900
00:36:02,569 --> 00:35:59,460
was a big hit yeah it's great I used the

901
00:36:04,490 --> 00:36:02,579
analogy about uh when a bear attacks a

902
00:36:06,050 --> 00:36:04,500
camp you don't have to be faster than

903
00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:06,060
the bear you just have to be faster than

904
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:08,760
the slowest camper true well that no

905
00:36:13,210 --> 00:36:11,760
longer applies there is no place to run

906
00:36:15,849 --> 00:36:13,220
anymore

907
00:36:19,550 --> 00:36:15,859
global warming is global

908
00:36:22,010 --> 00:36:19,560
uh and radiation leakages from Fukushima

909
00:36:24,410 --> 00:36:22,020
and and other sources now we have

910
00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:24,420
leaking storage facilities at Hanford

911
00:36:28,670 --> 00:36:26,820
that you know all over there's massive

912
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,680
leaks of radiation into the atmosphere

913
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,480
and Fukushima is totally out of control

914
00:36:35,390 --> 00:36:32,640
we have them totally lied to about the

915
00:36:37,069 --> 00:36:35,400
radiation that has not stopped being

916
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:37,079
released now for almost three years

917
00:36:41,690 --> 00:36:39,119
three years next month

918
00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:41,700
and that has traveled the Northern

919
00:36:46,130 --> 00:36:43,980
Hemisphere and saturated the Northern

920
00:36:47,690 --> 00:36:46,140
Hemisphere it's been falling out in rain

921
00:36:49,490 --> 00:36:47,700
and snow for three years the Japanese

922
00:36:52,490 --> 00:36:49,500
are still incinerating tons of

923
00:36:54,410 --> 00:36:52,500
radioactive waste every day tepco is

924
00:36:55,849 --> 00:36:54,420
still pouring hundreds and hundreds and

925
00:36:57,650 --> 00:36:55,859
hundreds of tons every day of

926
00:36:59,150 --> 00:36:57,660
radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean

927
00:37:01,490 --> 00:36:59,160
which is dying

928
00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:01,500
there is no place to run from radiation

929
00:37:07,550 --> 00:37:04,500
or climate collapse so running away if

930
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,560
you will is great but permaculture which

931
00:37:11,569 --> 00:37:09,359
I'm a great fan which I practiced in

932
00:37:12,589 --> 00:37:11,579
Northern California for a while before I

933
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:12,599
moved here

934
00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:15,119
is based upon thoughtful and protracted

935
00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:16,560
observation

936
00:37:21,650 --> 00:37:19,500
which means that you spend a long time a

937
00:37:23,089 --> 00:37:21,660
long enough time with an ecosystem and a

938
00:37:25,490 --> 00:37:23,099
climate observing it so that you

939
00:37:27,770 --> 00:37:25,500
understand but the implication is then

940
00:37:29,210 --> 00:37:27,780
that that that is a stable climate so

941
00:37:30,650 --> 00:37:29,220
that your observations will have

942
00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:30,660
relevance

943
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:33,359
well tell that to the people in in uh in

944
00:37:37,609 --> 00:37:34,800
the Philippines who had four feet of

945
00:37:40,190 --> 00:37:37,619
rain and 48 Hours tell that to the

946
00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:40,200
people in in Alaska and and near the

947
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:43,320
North Pole where it has been 20 30

948
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:46,079
degrees warmer in Alaska and at the

949
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,000
North Pole than it has been in Chicago

950
00:37:53,450 --> 00:37:51,119
Detroit Colorado New York tell that to

951
00:37:55,370 --> 00:37:53,460
the people in Great Britain where the

952
00:37:57,890 --> 00:37:55,380
Gulf Stream current has collapsed there

953
00:38:00,770 --> 00:37:57,900
is no climate stability guaranteed now

954
00:38:04,010 --> 00:38:00,780
and other the very competent climate

955
00:38:05,569 --> 00:38:04,020
scientist Paul Beckwith a professor at

956
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:05,579
the University of Ottawa is very

957
00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:08,400
eloquent on on this he says and I had

958
00:38:12,589 --> 00:38:10,140
him on my radio show a couple weeks ago

959
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:12,599
and and and and and I made him repeat it

960
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:16,320
he said both the frequency and the

961
00:38:20,210 --> 00:38:17,760
intensity

962
00:38:23,390 --> 00:38:20,220
of extreme weather events are going to

963
00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:23,400
increase by orders of magnitude

964
00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:27,540
wow you cannot go say I'm going to take

965
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:29,880
this patch of ground and find some clean

966
00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:32,400
water which radiation might be falling

967
00:38:37,010 --> 00:38:33,660
into now

968
00:38:40,010 --> 00:38:37,020
uh and and I'm going to make a stand to

969
00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:40,020
build myself a life book and this is I

970
00:38:43,550 --> 00:38:41,820
think from a spiritual standpoint a

971
00:38:45,890 --> 00:38:43,560
complete blessing

972
00:38:48,349 --> 00:38:45,900
for the human race because it is driving

973
00:38:50,030 --> 00:38:48,359
us back to a Unity Consciousness to make

974
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:50,040
us all realize that there is no them

975
00:38:56,210 --> 00:38:52,800
there is no us we are all sharing

976
00:38:58,849 --> 00:38:56,220
the same crisis and from that standpoint

977
00:39:02,270 --> 00:38:58,859
uh I'll just say this real real quickly

978
00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:02,280
I spent 21 years in 12-step recovery

979
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:05,160
um uh to summarize what what 12-step

980
00:39:08,990 --> 00:39:06,720
recovery says in almost all mystical

981
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:09,000
paths say apart from the spiritual

982
00:39:14,450 --> 00:39:12,079
solution can I cuss absolutely please do

983
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:14,460
apart from a spiritual solution we're

984
00:39:19,010 --> 00:39:16,079
[\h__\h]

985
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:19,020
yeah I well the I guess what's sad to me

986
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:21,599
though is that I get very hopeful about

987
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:23,760
the prospect of people coming to the

988
00:39:27,410 --> 00:39:26,640
spiritual realization going back to uh

989
00:39:29,630 --> 00:39:27,420
you know trying to perform

990
00:39:32,329 --> 00:39:29,640
self-sustainable communities

991
00:39:34,010 --> 00:39:32,339
uh going back to the Earth but you know

992
00:39:35,569 --> 00:39:34,020
it seems like you're saying that go

993
00:39:37,069 --> 00:39:35,579
ahead and do that but we're still all

994
00:39:40,490 --> 00:39:37,079
[\h__\h]

995
00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:40,500
yes now here's the great question

996
00:39:46,450 --> 00:39:43,619
and and and and I think that this is so

997
00:39:49,810 --> 00:39:46,460
important the question is energetically

998
00:39:53,690 --> 00:39:49,820
how we Face what's coming

999
00:39:56,810 --> 00:39:53,700
from what energetic standpoint and frame

1000
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:56,820
of mind we Face the standpoint I would

1001
00:40:01,069 --> 00:39:59,040
agree with guy McPherson I don't see any

1002
00:40:02,990 --> 00:40:01,079
possibility of saving the human race

1003
00:40:05,290 --> 00:40:03,000
there there's a distinct possibility

1004
00:40:07,849 --> 00:40:05,300
unpredictable from a Cartesian

1005
00:40:10,490 --> 00:40:07,859
measurable computer program standpoint

1006
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:10,500
Some Humans May survive Spirit there

1007
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:12,000
have been other mass extinctions of

1008
00:40:17,329 --> 00:40:14,880
humans before four Sons at the Hopi or

1009
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:17,339
the Mayan would say uh when the human

1010
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:18,960
race reached a certain point and there

1011
00:40:24,190 --> 00:40:21,839
was a Wipeout and yet a few survived

1012
00:40:28,370 --> 00:40:24,200
there is no way to to

1013
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:28,380
calculate who that might be right

1014
00:40:33,890 --> 00:40:31,680
but what's uh what's what's critical now

1015
00:40:36,349 --> 00:40:33,900
is what our Consciousness does as we

1016
00:40:39,290 --> 00:40:36,359
face this because I believe Terence

1017
00:40:41,450 --> 00:40:39,300
mcketta had had a great line and and I I

1018
00:40:43,490 --> 00:40:41,460
cannot thank him enough

1019
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:43,500
I when I lived in Northern California I

1020
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:45,119
just lived about four miles from his

1021
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:46,800
house in Occidental California and I was

1022
00:40:50,210 --> 00:40:48,720
privileged to know many of his

1023
00:40:53,930 --> 00:40:50,220
associates up there that was where I had

1024
00:40:55,609 --> 00:40:53,940
my first exposure to DMT oh awesome uh

1025
00:40:59,569 --> 00:40:55,619
and and this all seemed to have been our

1026
00:41:01,569 --> 00:40:59,579
gain but what he said was

1027
00:41:04,430 --> 00:41:01,579
we are

1028
00:41:07,609 --> 00:41:04,440
this fire in the mad house this chaotic

1029
00:41:11,150 --> 00:41:07,619
situation is the way it always is when a

1030
00:41:13,970 --> 00:41:11,160
species gets ready to evolve and leave

1031
00:41:16,910 --> 00:41:13,980
for the Stars

1032
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:16,920
in other words it might not be death as

1033
00:41:22,130 --> 00:41:19,440
in the end the blank black silent screen

1034
00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:22,140
that's facing us it might be a

1035
00:41:25,790 --> 00:41:23,940
monstrously wonderful and beautiful

1036
00:41:28,130 --> 00:41:25,800
evolution

1037
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:28,140
higher dimensions and higher Realms of

1038
00:41:32,089 --> 00:41:29,760
Consciousness but this is the way it

1039
00:41:34,010 --> 00:41:32,099
always looks at the end right it's just

1040
00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:34,020
a matter of perspective

1041
00:41:40,910 --> 00:41:38,760
and and a matter of of experience uh you

1042
00:41:44,030 --> 00:41:40,920
know from from my experience not only

1043
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,040
with with the psychedelics that that I

1044
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:46,079
have taken and I have to say that these

1045
00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:50,240
were always under uh very spiritually uh

1046
00:41:54,650 --> 00:41:52,980
prepared this is not a recreational

1047
00:41:57,710 --> 00:41:54,660
thing that you do there's prayer

1048
00:41:59,930 --> 00:41:57,720
preparation fasting and all that these

1049
00:42:02,870 --> 00:41:59,940
these these medicines that that Spirit

1050
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:02,880
gave to us in the form of plants

1051
00:42:09,410 --> 00:42:06,720
um like it need to be respected but you

1052
00:42:11,569 --> 00:42:09,420
can you can also do this from a non-drug

1053
00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:11,579
perspective as well to the practice of

1054
00:42:14,810 --> 00:42:13,140
spiritual principles as we know from

1055
00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:14,820
Alcoholics Anonymous as we know from

1056
00:42:19,730 --> 00:42:16,640
Gamblers Anonymous as we know from

1057
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:19,740
Native American Medicine ceremonies uh

1058
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,240
like a sweat lodge uh even to a unique

1059
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:26,400
UE excuse me where there are no drugs

1060
00:42:31,550 --> 00:42:29,040
involved and yet you experience contact

1061
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:31,560
with this other realm and what McKenna

1062
00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:34,560
said for most people he said uh doing

1063
00:42:39,950 --> 00:42:36,780
psychedelics or practicing spiritual

1064
00:42:43,150 --> 00:42:39,960
principles is like doing calisthenics

1065
00:42:46,609 --> 00:42:43,160
for the marathon into eternity

1066
00:42:49,550 --> 00:42:46,619
he said most people will be most likely

1067
00:42:51,650 --> 00:42:49,560
to perish or die from amazement once

1068
00:42:53,390 --> 00:42:51,660
they realize all of the rest of the

1069
00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:53,400
universe that we have been imprisonment

1070
00:42:57,950 --> 00:42:55,500
kept away from

1071
00:43:01,130 --> 00:42:57,960
okay well I guess then instead of

1072
00:43:04,490 --> 00:43:01,140
focusing on the individual survival and

1073
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:04,500
uh taking that type of path how can

1074
00:43:09,530 --> 00:43:06,720
someone who's facing some type of

1075
00:43:11,329 --> 00:43:09,540
spiritual blockage help to clear that

1076
00:43:12,530 --> 00:43:11,339
out outside of you know maybe if they

1077
00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:12,540
can't participate in one of these

1078
00:43:18,050 --> 00:43:15,480
rituals or psychedelics

1079
00:43:19,790 --> 00:43:18,060
how can they uh you know make a small

1080
00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:19,800
step in that direction to start feeling

1081
00:43:23,630 --> 00:43:21,960
something that's a wonderful question

1082
00:43:27,050 --> 00:43:23,640
you know that really is a good question

1083
00:43:28,730 --> 00:43:27,060
and I tried to do that to excuse me

1084
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,740
approach that question on my own show

1085
00:43:34,250 --> 00:43:30,960
last week with Christopher long who is a

1086
00:43:37,010 --> 00:43:34,260
a uh a practitioner of Native American

1087
00:43:39,230 --> 00:43:37,020
races medicine man here in crestone he's

1088
00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:39,240
a very dear friend and we were talking

1089
00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:44,700
about that I think the first stage that

1090
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:46,740
opens the door for this is the admission

1091
00:43:52,609 --> 00:43:49,440
of complete defeat

1092
00:43:54,290 --> 00:43:52,619
wow yeah surrender

1093
00:43:59,809 --> 00:43:54,300
in that

1094
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:59,819
once we begin to realize that uh the

1095
00:44:02,930 --> 00:44:01,200
political system isn't going to do

1096
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:02,940
anything the economic system isn't going

1097
00:44:08,270 --> 00:44:04,800
to do anything but even more than that

1098
00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:08,280
3D Cartesian reality trying to deal with

1099
00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:10,319
the whole universe as though it was

1100
00:44:15,770 --> 00:44:13,040
measured by numbers and measurement

1101
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:15,780
controlled by numbers and measurement is

1102
00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:20,640
what got us here right so when we when

1103
00:44:27,050 --> 00:44:24,240
individuals inside admit uh that buying

1104
00:44:29,089 --> 00:44:27,060
a Prius or recycling or getting a bumper

1105
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:29,099
sticker is not going to solve The

1106
00:44:33,290 --> 00:44:30,480
World's problems you know what I'm

1107
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,300
saying of course uh once they admit that

1108
00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:35,760
that system is defeated then

1109
00:44:39,710 --> 00:44:38,040
you are at a place of becoming what I

1110
00:44:41,230 --> 00:44:39,720
would call teachable

1111
00:44:45,290 --> 00:44:41,240
open

1112
00:44:47,569 --> 00:44:45,300
uh and uh this is not about punishment I

1113
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:47,579
one of the greatest spiritual precepts I

1114
00:44:52,250 --> 00:44:49,680
ever ever learned was the concept of

1115
00:44:55,790 --> 00:44:52,260
change without punishment

1116
00:44:57,770 --> 00:44:55,800
just let go of what didn't work there's

1117
00:45:00,170 --> 00:44:57,780
no need to beat yourself over the head

1118
00:45:03,050 --> 00:45:00,180
or punish or shame or blame anything

1119
00:45:05,089 --> 00:45:03,060
just watch stop participating

1120
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:05,099
uh and I'm not calling for seven billion

1121
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,240
people to do something and that that

1122
00:45:10,130 --> 00:45:08,160
will cause the Federal Reserve no that's

1123
00:45:12,829 --> 00:45:10,140
the wrong approach it's all internal

1124
00:45:15,710 --> 00:45:12,839
it's all a matter of consciousness

1125
00:45:17,329 --> 00:45:15,720
um there is now around the world a large

1126
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:17,339
enough Community which you can find from

1127
00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:19,680
my Facebook page links to much of it but

1128
00:45:24,410 --> 00:45:21,180
you can go to guy McPherson's page

1129
00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:24,420
nature bats last or Carolyn Baker's page

1130
00:45:27,490 --> 00:45:26,460
she's my dear friend speaking truth to

1131
00:45:31,250 --> 00:45:27,500
power

1132
00:45:34,609 --> 00:45:31,260
these are doorways to to an ever-growing

1133
00:45:36,650 --> 00:45:34,619
community of Consciousness spiritual not

1134
00:45:38,450 --> 00:45:36,660
religious

1135
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,460
um religion is for people who are afraid

1136
00:45:42,290 --> 00:45:40,079
of going to hell and spiritualities for

1137
00:45:46,010 --> 00:45:42,300
those who have already been there

1138
00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:46,020
um and so this is a large community and

1139
00:45:50,809 --> 00:45:48,839
and and it's evolving just like occupy

1140
00:45:53,210 --> 00:45:50,819
did extremely rapidly

1141
00:45:55,550 --> 00:45:53,220
as I think back to uh to occupy I was

1142
00:45:58,849 --> 00:45:55,560
deeply involved and occupy sent out also

1143
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:58,859
just north of Oakland and we had some we

1144
00:46:02,569 --> 00:46:01,200
avoided major violence there and I was

1145
00:46:05,150 --> 00:46:02,579
deeply involved in that but my

1146
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:05,160
experience with the Occupy Movement was

1147
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:08,160
that in the camps Consciousness was

1148
00:46:13,010 --> 00:46:10,800
evolving so quickly that that became the

1149
00:46:16,609 --> 00:46:13,020
enemy yeah people were coming out of

1150
00:46:19,130 --> 00:46:16,619
hypnosis so quickly that the imperative

1151
00:46:23,589 --> 00:46:19,140
had to be to shut down occupy at all

1152
00:46:26,210 --> 00:46:23,599
costs I loved it oh man it was so

1153
00:46:28,849 --> 00:46:26,220
warming and I totally agree and I was

1154
00:46:31,250 --> 00:46:28,859
saying it at the time that occupy won't

1155
00:46:33,890 --> 00:46:31,260
make it because it's got a list of 10

1156
00:46:35,690 --> 00:46:33,900
000 demands that nobody can agree on if

1157
00:46:37,069 --> 00:46:35,700
occupy had gotten to the point where we

1158
00:46:38,569 --> 00:46:37,079
had all said at the same time until you

1159
00:46:39,710 --> 00:46:38,579
change the way money works you change

1160
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:39,720
nothing because I think back to

1161
00:46:45,370 --> 00:46:41,520
occupying I think what were the demands

1162
00:46:49,809 --> 00:46:45,380
of something about uh uh

1163
00:46:54,589 --> 00:46:52,069
in that war

1164
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:54,599
and if we look back in retrospect all of

1165
00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:56,400
those demands are absolutely irrelevant

1166
00:47:00,530 --> 00:46:57,599
today

1167
00:47:02,930 --> 00:47:00,540
yeah so had we reached that level of

1168
00:47:06,050 --> 00:47:02,940
Consciousness then occupy was a

1169
00:47:09,890 --> 00:47:06,060
wonderful event but trying to recreate

1170
00:47:11,630 --> 00:47:09,900
occupy now I think would be a a we're

1171
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:11,640
just too far past that now we are

1172
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,640
there's a lot of the people listening to

1173
00:47:18,290 --> 00:47:16,079
your broadcast and I believe you're

1174
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:18,300
heard all over the world yeah

1175
00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:21,599
um uh you know are trying to survive

1176
00:47:28,130 --> 00:47:24,319
brutal winter weather

1177
00:47:32,030 --> 00:47:28,140
or big heat waves or uh you know

1178
00:47:34,910 --> 00:47:32,040
whatever so uh and and this is not even

1179
00:47:36,530 --> 00:47:34,920
beginning to touch the the cancers that

1180
00:47:38,210 --> 00:47:36,540
are turning up not over not only all

1181
00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:38,220
over Japan but all over the Pacific

1182
00:47:42,770 --> 00:47:40,200
coast and the fact that much of the

1183
00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:42,780
Pacific Ocean is dead already the

1184
00:47:48,829 --> 00:47:45,420
Pacific Sea floor uh off the Pacific

1185
00:47:52,010 --> 00:47:48,839
coast of the U.S is uh is is littered

1186
00:47:55,370 --> 00:47:52,020
with dead species there are no uh there

1187
00:47:58,010 --> 00:47:55,380
are no uh anchovies uh the the 100 of

1188
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:58,020
the tested bluefin tuna tested positive

1189
00:48:03,010 --> 00:47:59,359
for radiation because radiation

1190
00:48:06,770 --> 00:48:03,020
bioaccumulates off the up the food chain

1191
00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:06,780
mackerel Herring uh the symptoms of the

1192
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:08,520
radiation poor thinning are all over

1193
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:09,839
yeah

1194
00:48:16,970 --> 00:48:12,960
um so you know and from this point I I

1195
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:16,980
guess I would come back to

1196
00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:19,200
uh I'm a warrior you know I spent my

1197
00:48:23,329 --> 00:48:21,000
time I was a cop and I spent a lot of

1198
00:48:25,069 --> 00:48:23,339
time around the Warriors and I'm

1199
00:48:27,470 --> 00:48:25,079
regarded as a warrior and warriors

1200
00:48:30,010 --> 00:48:27,480
understand that you fight best when

1201
00:48:34,910 --> 00:48:30,020
you're certain you're going to die

1202
00:48:38,809 --> 00:48:34,920
that's when Evolution occurs not until

1203
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:38,819
your backs are completely against the

1204
00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:42,480
wall live by spiritual principles or die

1205
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:45,420
because it you know it's it's alcoholic

1206
00:48:49,550 --> 00:48:47,760
Behavior you know what to say it an

1207
00:48:52,490 --> 00:48:49,560
alcoholic walks into a doctor's office

1208
00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:52,500
you know and and the metaphors he's

1209
00:48:56,329 --> 00:48:53,700
hitting himself in the head with a

1210
00:48:57,950 --> 00:48:56,339
hammer right and and he says the doctor

1211
00:49:00,109 --> 00:48:57,960
geez that really hurts when I do this

1212
00:49:01,790 --> 00:49:00,119
and the doctor says well stop hitting

1213
00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:01,800
yourself in the head of the hammer yeah

1214
00:49:05,630 --> 00:49:03,780
but but the alcoholic will walk out

1215
00:49:07,630 --> 00:49:05,640
going oh there's got to be another way

1216
00:49:10,550 --> 00:49:07,640
yeah yeah

1217
00:49:13,609 --> 00:49:10,560
you know and there isn't

1218
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:13,619
yeah this uh the thing you just touched

1219
00:49:16,910 --> 00:49:15,359
on the warrior it fights best when

1220
00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:16,920
they're facing certain death when they

1221
00:49:21,170 --> 00:49:19,260
know they're gonna die I mean that isn't

1222
00:49:22,609 --> 00:49:21,180
as a theme that has come out and a lot

1223
00:49:24,290 --> 00:49:22,619
of things that I really respect and

1224
00:49:25,970 --> 00:49:24,300
appreciate I mean V for Vendetta is one

1225
00:49:28,370 --> 00:49:25,980
of my favorite movies it's it's off it's

1226
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,380
weird that the mask has been uh used the

1227
00:49:31,970 --> 00:49:30,240
way it has in recent years but I mean

1228
00:49:34,550 --> 00:49:31,980
even in that movie if you've seen it he

1229
00:49:36,050 --> 00:49:34,560
locks Natalie Portman up and you know

1230
00:49:37,370 --> 00:49:36,060
she goes through this whole thing where

1231
00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:37,380
she's she's pretty sure she's gonna die

1232
00:49:40,010 --> 00:49:38,760
and then he frees her and she's like why

1233
00:49:41,870 --> 00:49:40,020
the hell would you do that to me and

1234
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:41,880
she's so pissed she eventually comes

1235
00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:44,640
back and she's like wow that was a a

1236
00:49:49,490 --> 00:49:47,160
gift that most people never get and now

1237
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:49,500
I'm now I'm a real human being okay

1238
00:49:53,329 --> 00:49:51,359
thank you that was great that was

1239
00:49:54,910 --> 00:49:53,339
wonderful and that's exactly what's

1240
00:49:57,950 --> 00:49:54,920
starting to happen

1241
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:57,960
in so many places around the world right

1242
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,240
now where so many people they are

1243
00:50:06,290 --> 00:50:03,119
getting that that is the gift that comes

1244
00:50:08,510 --> 00:50:06,300
with this yeah uh and and many people

1245
00:50:12,290 --> 00:50:08,520
are really starting to wake up to this

1246
00:50:14,270 --> 00:50:12,300
realizing I mean 2030 is only 16 years

1247
00:50:16,490 --> 00:50:14,280
away

1248
00:50:17,809 --> 00:50:16,500
and these numbers are certain I strongly

1249
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:17,819
recommend that people go find guy

1250
00:50:22,670 --> 00:50:19,920
mcpherson.com nature bats last the

1251
00:50:25,910 --> 00:50:22,680
science I'm in 2030 studies even

1252
00:50:27,650 --> 00:50:25,920
conservative bodies like the ipcc have

1253
00:50:29,569 --> 00:50:27,660
got it on the table right now oil

1254
00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:29,579
companies even the

1255
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,900
themselves there so there are people who

1256
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:35,359
are getting it now

1257
00:50:41,210 --> 00:50:38,640
you know I I try to live and I still

1258
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:41,220
live by uh even though I haven't

1259
00:50:45,950 --> 00:50:43,920
participated in the 12-step recovery so

1260
00:50:47,870 --> 00:50:45,960
before I did it for 21 years one month

1261
00:50:50,329 --> 00:50:47,880
and 13 days completely abstinent from

1262
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:50,339
everything I I now take the psychedelics

1263
00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:53,520
nice either under supervised shamanic

1264
00:50:56,210 --> 00:50:55,020
conditions

1265
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:56,220
um

1266
00:51:01,490 --> 00:50:59,040
but you get to a point you and and you

1267
00:51:03,049 --> 00:51:01,500
have heard Native Americans say it is a

1268
00:51:05,329 --> 00:51:03,059
good day to die

1269
00:51:07,130 --> 00:51:05,339
right well that means you're free and

1270
00:51:09,470 --> 00:51:07,140
you're living cleanly

1271
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:09,480
and clearly you'll put yourself in right

1272
00:51:13,970 --> 00:51:12,240
relation with all things you have gone

1273
00:51:16,370 --> 00:51:13,980
back for your life you've cleaned up

1274
00:51:18,349 --> 00:51:16,380
stuff that you maybe put off

1275
00:51:20,089 --> 00:51:18,359
you want to be in right relation on a

1276
00:51:22,970 --> 00:51:20,099
loving relation so that you're free

1277
00:51:26,030 --> 00:51:22,980
you're not carrying a ton of baggage but

1278
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:26,040
anybody who has ever if you will gotten

1279
00:51:31,609 --> 00:51:29,520
sober uh in in a or or experience the

1280
00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:31,619
power of spiritual practices changing

1281
00:51:35,829 --> 00:51:32,760
your life

1282
00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:35,839
well understand that what happens is

1283
00:51:42,290 --> 00:51:39,540
I won't say Solutions I will say options

1284
00:51:44,510 --> 00:51:42,300
that were not visible

1285
00:51:47,390 --> 00:51:44,520
from the from this frame of mind that

1286
00:51:50,750 --> 00:51:47,400
you had before become visible they

1287
00:51:56,690 --> 00:51:54,650
um Einstein and and Carl Jung who I you

1288
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:56,700
know have enormous respect for both said

1289
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,800
the same thing once you know there's a

1290
00:52:02,470 --> 00:52:00,240
God it doesn't matter whether you

1291
00:52:06,530 --> 00:52:02,480
believe in one or not

1292
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,540
yeah and it's that experience of the

1293
00:52:10,250 --> 00:52:08,640
spiritual reality which is a universe

1294
00:52:12,670 --> 00:52:10,260
that the human race has been

1295
00:52:15,470 --> 00:52:12,680
systematically locked away from

1296
00:52:17,290 --> 00:52:15,480
imprisoned if you will George Orwell was

1297
00:52:19,549 --> 00:52:17,300
so right we are

1298
00:52:22,250 --> 00:52:19,559
in the keepers of the Paradigm in the

1299
00:52:25,069 --> 00:52:22,260
meme meme our own jail Keepers in a jail

1300
00:52:29,870 --> 00:52:25,079
without bars

1301
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:29,880
man and and and the idea is to step out

1302
00:52:32,990 --> 00:52:31,200
of the jail which is an act of

1303
00:52:34,910 --> 00:52:33,000
Consciousness it's all inner work rather

1304
00:52:37,730 --> 00:52:34,920
than outer work

1305
00:52:39,950 --> 00:52:37,740
yeah that seems to be the big evolution

1306
00:52:41,809 --> 00:52:39,960
of the conspiracy movement the

1307
00:52:43,970 --> 00:52:41,819
conspiracy researchers every the people

1308
00:52:45,770 --> 00:52:43,980
I've been talking to is you know first

1309
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:45,780
you know you identify the problems and

1310
00:52:48,770 --> 00:52:47,040
you're looking at the corruption and

1311
00:52:50,990 --> 00:52:48,780
there's rebellion and struggle and then

1312
00:52:53,329 --> 00:52:51,000
there's finally this uh spiritual

1313
00:52:55,790 --> 00:52:53,339
acceptance and I guess I'm a little

1314
00:52:59,390 --> 00:52:55,800
young I'm not there yet I'm still trying

1315
00:53:02,089 --> 00:52:59,400
to to fight this thing but uh you know

1316
00:53:03,710 --> 00:53:02,099
Duncan Trussell is a great comedian he's

1317
00:53:05,930 --> 00:53:03,720
a friend of Joe Rogan's like he's on

1318
00:53:07,309 --> 00:53:05,940
that show all the time I had Duncan

1319
00:53:08,990 --> 00:53:07,319
Trussell he was the first guest of this

1320
00:53:10,670 --> 00:53:09,000
year and he said something that has kind

1321
00:53:14,089 --> 00:53:10,680
of stuck with me and he said

1322
00:53:16,190 --> 00:53:14,099
if I was Satan my goal would be to

1323
00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:16,200
convince people that if you change

1324
00:53:20,270 --> 00:53:18,900
external factors you will fix internal

1325
00:53:22,010 --> 00:53:20,280
problems

1326
00:53:25,010 --> 00:53:22,020
and I was like wow that's pretty

1327
00:53:28,910 --> 00:53:25,020
profound not state but that's the

1328
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:28,920
essence of in in all 12-step programs

1329
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:32,160
and and and 12-step has deep roots in

1330
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:34,319
deep historical roots in metaphysics

1331
00:53:38,109 --> 00:53:36,480
recognized by almost all spiritual

1332
00:53:39,790 --> 00:53:38,119
traditions

1333
00:53:43,210 --> 00:53:39,800
uh

1334
00:53:45,770 --> 00:53:43,220
the the Serenity Prayer is

1335
00:53:47,390 --> 00:53:45,780
universal God grant me the serenity to

1336
00:53:50,089 --> 00:53:47,400
accept the things I cannot change the

1337
00:53:52,430 --> 00:53:50,099
courage to change the things I can and

1338
00:53:54,290 --> 00:53:52,440
the wisdom to know the difference

1339
00:53:57,770 --> 00:53:54,300
when the spiritual awakening has

1340
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:57,780
occurred one realizes completely that

1341
00:54:02,150 --> 00:53:59,760
the things that you cannot change are

1342
00:54:04,250 --> 00:54:02,160
the things outside of yourself right and

1343
00:54:07,309 --> 00:54:04,260
the only things that can be changed are

1344
00:54:10,730 --> 00:54:07,319
your own attitudes and consciousness

1345
00:54:14,270 --> 00:54:10,740
yeah it's it's funny how much of what we

1346
00:54:16,490 --> 00:54:14,280
identify as reality is starts with our

1347
00:54:19,309 --> 00:54:16,500
perspective you know starts with what

1348
00:54:20,990 --> 00:54:19,319
where our mind's at so yeah I totally

1349
00:54:24,410 --> 00:54:21,000
agree I guess I'm you know I grew up

1350
00:54:26,930 --> 00:54:24,420
Catholic I kind of resist anything that

1351
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,940
resembles religion spirituality I

1352
00:54:29,809 --> 00:54:28,319
understand they're different things but

1353
00:54:32,089 --> 00:54:29,819
I guess I just have a hard time talking

1354
00:54:36,170 --> 00:54:32,099
about it it just seems kind of outside

1355
00:54:37,790 --> 00:54:36,180
of myself still well here's here's a a

1356
00:54:40,370 --> 00:54:37,800
good way to look at that that will

1357
00:54:42,049 --> 00:54:40,380
probably make sense to you sure if you

1358
00:54:43,490 --> 00:54:42,059
did historical work and this is what a

1359
00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:43,500
great note is owed to people like Graham

1360
00:54:47,870 --> 00:54:46,319
Hancock if you look at all of the

1361
00:54:49,849 --> 00:54:47,880
persecutions

1362
00:54:52,250 --> 00:54:49,859
of the Catholic Church let's say

1363
00:54:55,730 --> 00:54:52,260
organized religion let's say since since

1364
00:54:58,250 --> 00:54:55,740
uh since the god of Abraham okay they

1365
00:55:00,890 --> 00:54:58,260
have all systematically been directed

1366
00:55:03,730 --> 00:55:00,900
the first Catholic Inquisition was not

1367
00:55:07,069 --> 00:55:03,740
against Muslims it was against

1368
00:55:09,710 --> 00:55:07,079
cassar's BOGO meals uh manichaeans

1369
00:55:13,069 --> 00:55:09,720
Gnostic Christians who preached and

1370
00:55:15,710 --> 00:55:13,079
believed the unity of man with all life

1371
00:55:19,849 --> 00:55:15,720
and a sacred relationship with Mother

1372
00:55:23,390 --> 00:55:19,859
Earth Yep and if you do the historical

1373
00:55:26,329 --> 00:55:23,400
work on that what you find is that's

1374
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,339
behind all of the genocides of

1375
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:28,559
indigenous peoples all over the world

1376
00:55:35,569 --> 00:55:31,680
it's to kill that Consciousness so

1377
00:55:38,210 --> 00:55:35,579
that's what religion has done

1378
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:38,220
that's not what spirituality is or let's

1379
00:55:44,089 --> 00:55:41,760
call it just uh a Consciousness that is

1380
00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:44,099
aware of the connectedness of all things

1381
00:55:48,049 --> 00:55:46,020
in the web of life it's the difference

1382
00:55:50,089 --> 00:55:48,059
between cooperation

1383
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:50,099
and competition

1384
00:55:53,450 --> 00:55:51,839
yeah I mean you're right you're right

1385
00:55:55,970 --> 00:55:53,460
I've looked into that a whole bunch and

1386
00:55:58,849 --> 00:55:55,980
destroying that Gnostic tradition was so

1387
00:56:01,370 --> 00:55:58,859
critical to gain control over the planet

1388
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:01,380
and getting into the situation we're in

1389
00:56:04,250 --> 00:56:02,640
now

1390
00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:04,260
and that that's why it continues

1391
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:06,540
ruthlessly until this day

1392
00:56:10,670 --> 00:56:08,880
well you know man I love talking let's

1393
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:10,680
talk a little bit uh I wanted to make

1394
00:56:13,690 --> 00:56:12,000
sure we talked about that transition

1395
00:56:16,849 --> 00:56:13,700
where you went from Northern California

1396
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:16,859
to Colorado I mean what led you to leave

1397
00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:18,480
that Community because from my

1398
00:56:21,410 --> 00:56:19,920
perspective you know watching you a few

1399
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:21,420
years ago I was like man that guy's got

1400
00:56:24,589 --> 00:56:23,040
it right you know I want to go up and

1401
00:56:25,870 --> 00:56:24,599
set up some kind of community like that

1402
00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:25,880
where we're farming and we're

1403
00:56:32,089 --> 00:56:28,920
sustainable and all that stuff you know

1404
00:56:33,770 --> 00:56:32,099
what led you to to leave that well you

1405
00:56:35,390 --> 00:56:33,780
know I let me say I've never been

1406
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:35,400
happier than I was when I lived in the

1407
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:38,160
Sebastopol in West Sonoma County because

1408
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:41,040
I too believe the same thing however

1409
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:44,400
uh I was in a place where my own

1410
00:56:47,870 --> 00:56:46,079
Evolution had come I had founded a

1411
00:56:51,230 --> 00:56:47,880
company called collapse net collapse

1412
00:56:53,150 --> 00:56:51,240
Network yes but I was limited within a

1413
00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:53,160
company that I had created by all the

1414
00:56:56,990 --> 00:56:54,420
staff who were there who had built the

1415
00:56:58,910 --> 00:56:57,000
company to not discussing anything

1416
00:57:01,910 --> 00:56:58,920
spiritual

1417
00:57:04,490 --> 00:57:01,920
and I had absolutely reached a point

1418
00:57:06,589 --> 00:57:04,500
where I couldn't deal with the world

1419
00:57:08,809 --> 00:57:06,599
from reading news stories and trying to

1420
00:57:10,609 --> 00:57:08,819
give answers from a 3D Cartesian

1421
00:57:12,670 --> 00:57:10,619
political perspective

1422
00:57:16,190 --> 00:57:12,680
it was killing me

1423
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:16,200
uh and and the the company was

1424
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:17,520
struggling and I had a couple of very

1425
00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:19,680
profound spiritual experiences happen a

1426
00:57:23,329 --> 00:57:21,839
shaman from here in Colorado sent a

1427
00:57:25,549 --> 00:57:23,339
medicine bundle to me out of the blue

1428
00:57:27,410 --> 00:57:25,559
which just kicked me in the butt and

1429
00:57:29,089 --> 00:57:27,420
through my own prayers I realized that I

1430
00:57:31,370 --> 00:57:29,099
had to let go of everything and I went

1431
00:57:33,230 --> 00:57:31,380
through a great dying of in in there as

1432
00:57:35,450 --> 00:57:33,240
I left I fired myself in the company I

1433
00:57:38,210 --> 00:57:35,460
gave it to the employees and I got rid

1434
00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:38,220
of all my material possession I was

1435
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,700
broke I had no money I had no place to

1436
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:43,680
go but I was willing to follow spirit

1437
00:57:47,150 --> 00:57:45,359
that way

1438
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:47,160
and that's the kind of willingness that

1439
00:57:51,770 --> 00:57:48,960
really you have to have before it pays

1440
00:57:53,930 --> 00:57:51,780
off so I lost everything I I have a band

1441
00:57:55,309 --> 00:57:53,940
mate I'm in a been in a band called new

1442
00:57:57,950 --> 00:57:55,319
white trash with my dear friend Doug

1443
00:57:59,630 --> 00:57:57,960
Lewis I met in Venice we've done two CDs

1444
00:58:03,290 --> 00:57:59,640
at newwhitetrash.com if you're

1445
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:03,300
interested and uh and uh uh and I had no

1446
00:58:07,970 --> 00:58:05,760
place else to go and he said I've got a

1447
00:58:10,490 --> 00:58:07,980
bet and he happened to be in the San

1448
00:58:12,589 --> 00:58:10,500
Luis Valley in Southern Colorado on the

1449
00:58:14,930 --> 00:58:12,599
west slope of the Rockies at 8 100 feet

1450
00:58:17,089 --> 00:58:14,940
in an utterly remote and and it's a

1451
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:17,099
pretty harsh climate here because I'm 24

1452
00:58:22,370 --> 00:58:19,200
miles outside of cresto

1453
00:58:24,049 --> 00:58:22,380
but I arrived here in August of 2012 but

1454
00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:24,059
everything that I own including my dog

1455
00:58:29,870 --> 00:58:27,300
rags in a RAV4 and I'm still

1456
00:58:33,049 --> 00:58:29,880
essentially that way so I arrived here

1457
00:58:35,390 --> 00:58:33,059
uh ready to die I was broken I had let

1458
00:58:36,890 --> 00:58:35,400
go of everything I had believed that I

1459
00:58:38,750 --> 00:58:36,900
had outlived

1460
00:58:40,670 --> 00:58:38,760
my usefulness that I had carried the

1461
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:40,680
ball as far as I could and all spiritual

1462
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,240
Traditions have the concept of the death

1463
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:44,640
and the rebirth the Phoenix

1464
00:58:52,730 --> 00:58:49,200
uh and and uh and what I found here was

1465
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:52,740
a an amazing connection to uh Native

1466
00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:54,480
American spirituality it's been a

1467
00:58:58,730 --> 00:58:56,220
crucible I'm going to be moving soon in

1468
00:59:02,410 --> 00:58:58,740
into the town of crestone which is much

1469
00:59:05,329 --> 00:59:02,420
more I'm on a very flat people even

1470
00:59:07,250 --> 00:59:05,339
tough people won't live where I've lived

1471
00:59:09,770 --> 00:59:07,260
for the last two years but I'm moving

1472
00:59:11,630 --> 00:59:09,780
into crestone but what emerged out of

1473
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:11,640
that sense was that my radio show has

1474
00:59:16,190 --> 00:59:13,680
become extremely popular all over the

1475
00:59:18,170 --> 00:59:16,200
world the vice series is now coming out

1476
00:59:20,450 --> 00:59:18,180
there's other things and the work that I

1477
00:59:23,329 --> 00:59:20,460
have evolved

1478
00:59:25,970 --> 00:59:23,339
and as always there's always a dying of

1479
00:59:28,370 --> 00:59:25,980
some kind involved with an evolution to

1480
00:59:31,549 --> 00:59:28,380
a higher level of consciousness

1481
00:59:33,470 --> 00:59:31,559
uh and and uh and and that's been

1482
00:59:35,390 --> 00:59:33,480
critical for me and and I won't leave

1483
00:59:38,030 --> 00:59:35,400
here now I'm going to move into a more

1484
00:59:39,470 --> 00:59:38,040
hospitable crystals sheltered in the

1485
00:59:41,809 --> 00:59:39,480
mountains with it and it's a beautiful

1486
00:59:43,849 --> 00:59:41,819
Community uh but it's still very remote

1487
00:59:46,010 --> 00:59:43,859
where I am right now is 24 miles to the

1488
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:46,020
closest store I've been snowed in for

1489
00:59:51,849 --> 00:59:48,000
six seven days at a time here this

1490
00:59:54,770 --> 00:59:51,859
winter which has been brutal so uh so

1491
00:59:56,750 --> 00:59:54,780
there is always something after what you

1492
00:59:59,569 --> 00:59:56,760
think the end is and I think that's a

1493
01:00:02,030 --> 00:59:59,579
tremendous message to carry the end of

1494
01:00:03,770 --> 01:00:02,040
human industrial civilization I think a

1495
01:00:06,589 --> 01:00:03,780
lot of people now would get is necessary

1496
01:00:08,809 --> 01:00:06,599
we cannot continue to add increasing

1497
01:00:11,150 --> 01:00:08,819
amounts of carbon into the atmosphere we

1498
01:00:13,309 --> 01:00:11,160
can't run 450 nuclear power plants that

1499
01:00:15,230 --> 01:00:13,319
we can't control we can't provide a

1500
01:00:16,849 --> 01:00:15,240
million years worth of safe storage

1501
01:00:19,010 --> 01:00:16,859
mankind hasn't built a structure that

1502
01:00:20,210 --> 01:00:19,020
lasted for fifteen thousand years let

1503
01:00:23,150 --> 01:00:20,220
alone a million that's what we have to

1504
01:00:26,089 --> 01:00:23,160
do with plutonium so that needs to end

1505
01:00:27,890 --> 01:00:26,099
yeah but there's something after that

1506
01:00:30,650 --> 01:00:27,900
and it is the sense of wonder and

1507
01:00:32,450 --> 01:00:30,660
amazement and curiosity and courage that

1508
01:00:34,430 --> 01:00:32,460
I think is important for everybody to

1509
01:00:37,730 --> 01:00:34,440
carry now even as we admit that we're

1510
01:00:39,710 --> 01:00:37,740
defeated from in in a 3D Cartesian

1511
01:00:41,150 --> 01:00:39,720
reality that is dying and proving to be

1512
01:00:43,130 --> 01:00:41,160
false

1513
01:00:44,930 --> 01:00:43,140
well I think that's an inspirational

1514
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:44,940
story I'm glad you found happiness and

1515
01:00:49,309 --> 01:00:46,799
came out on the other side of uh what

1516
01:00:50,750 --> 01:00:49,319
seemed to be a pretty dark place I mean

1517
01:00:52,430 --> 01:00:50,760
what's great about you I think what a

1518
01:00:54,109 --> 01:00:52,440
lot of people respect and envy is that

1519
01:00:55,549 --> 01:00:54,119
you're just a professional you you know

1520
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:55,559
you don't have a boss you don't have a

1521
01:00:59,089 --> 01:00:57,599
dead-end job you're free that's a place

1522
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:59,099
I think a lot of people want to get to

1523
01:01:03,829 --> 01:01:01,200
even if it's just for the short time we

1524
01:01:05,690 --> 01:01:03,839
have left you know uh yeah I I do what I

1525
01:01:08,210 --> 01:01:05,700
do for free I get you know 800 some

1526
01:01:10,010 --> 01:01:08,220
bucks a month Social Security I get

1527
01:01:11,390 --> 01:01:10,020
maybe a lesson well less than ten

1528
01:01:13,970 --> 01:01:11,400
thousand dollars a year royalty from two

1529
01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:13,980
books in a movie but people send me

1530
01:01:19,490 --> 01:01:16,319
money because they love me and I do what

1531
01:01:22,250 --> 01:01:19,500
I do for love and that's a completely

1532
01:01:24,650 --> 01:01:22,260
different energetic relationship with

1533
01:01:27,410 --> 01:01:24,660
the source of supply and I will not

1534
01:01:29,630 --> 01:01:27,420
re-enter that old monetary Paradigm for

1535
01:01:32,569 --> 01:01:29,640
anything yeah

1536
01:01:34,490 --> 01:01:32,579
well hey man that's that's great you

1537
01:01:35,809 --> 01:01:34,500
know not a lot of people can't say and I

1538
01:01:37,370 --> 01:01:35,819
didn't want to go into your whole back

1539
01:01:38,569 --> 01:01:37,380
history because that's out there on the

1540
01:01:40,190 --> 01:01:38,579
internet people can get into that we

1541
01:01:42,530 --> 01:01:40,200
only had a short hour and I'm so glad we

1542
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:42,540
got as deep as we did but not a lot of

1543
01:01:47,150 --> 01:01:44,400
people can say that they've had a real

1544
01:01:50,210 --> 01:01:47,160
opportunity to sell out and have a cushy

1545
01:01:52,490 --> 01:01:50,220
position in the system doing nefarious

1546
01:01:54,410 --> 01:01:52,500
deeds and protecting criminals and you

1547
01:01:57,710 --> 01:01:54,420
have that opportunity and you said [\h__\h]

1548
01:02:00,410 --> 01:01:57,720
that and I think that is incredibly

1549
01:02:02,210 --> 01:02:00,420
admirable I I wish I could I would be as

1550
01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:02,220
strong as you if I was ever faced with

1551
01:02:05,870 --> 01:02:03,839
such a situation

1552
01:02:07,730 --> 01:02:05,880
um thanks for being here man the

1553
01:02:09,890 --> 01:02:07,740
opportunities are always there in any

1554
01:02:12,170 --> 01:02:09,900
instant for anybody to honor themselves

1555
01:02:14,270 --> 01:02:12,180
and live honorably forget about the past

1556
01:02:16,010 --> 01:02:14,280
it's change without punishment and what

1557
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:16,020
you once you tune to that tuning fork

1558
01:02:21,890 --> 01:02:18,720
the benefits come very quickly right on

1559
01:02:25,789 --> 01:02:21,900
well said appreciate it man hey enjoy

1560
01:02:27,530 --> 01:02:25,799
your day uh happy birthday thank you and

1561
01:02:29,150 --> 01:02:27,540
uh hopefully we can talk again if if

1562
01:02:32,450 --> 01:02:29,160
we're here long enough

1563
01:02:34,190 --> 01:02:32,460
uh Hey listen we do this one day at a

1564
01:02:35,690 --> 01:02:34,200
time breathe in and breathe out and I

1565
01:02:37,609 --> 01:02:35,700
and I would be happy to meet with you

1566
01:02:40,670 --> 01:02:37,619
again all right man thanks take care

1567
01:02:43,130 --> 01:02:40,680
take care bye-bye wow what a great guess

1568
01:02:44,750 --> 01:02:43,140
people I hope there's a way to correct

1569
01:02:46,670 --> 01:02:44,760
the imbalances of the world without a

1570
01:02:49,010 --> 01:02:46,680
massive human die-off but maybe there

1571
01:02:50,990 --> 01:02:49,020
isn't either way I love the guy check

1572
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:51,000
out the documentary collapse if you

1573
01:02:54,049 --> 01:02:52,319
haven't seen it and you'll have a good

1574
01:02:56,450 --> 01:02:54,059
idea why Mike feels that we've passed

1575
01:02:58,490 --> 01:02:56,460
the point of no return also check out

1576
01:03:01,549 --> 01:02:58,500
the new Vice documentaries series called

1577
01:03:04,010 --> 01:03:01,559
apocalypse man I think the sixth and

1578
01:03:06,410 --> 01:03:04,020
final part is being released as we speak

1579
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:06,420
you can find it on YouTube track mic

1580
01:03:11,030 --> 01:03:08,160
down on Twitter and Facebook and tell

1581
01:03:13,250 --> 01:03:11,040
them it's gonna be okay no don't do that

1582
01:03:15,170 --> 01:03:13,260
I'm just kidding well that said I've

1583
01:03:17,870 --> 01:03:15,180
never been happier this is an exciting

1584
01:03:20,569 --> 01:03:17,880
new chapter to life in my whole history

1585
01:03:22,490 --> 01:03:20,579
like many of you a three month summer is

1586
01:03:24,530 --> 01:03:22,500
the most Freedom I've ever tasted at

1587
01:03:26,210 --> 01:03:24,540
once and now it's just a blank slate

1588
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:26,220
from here on out except for this crazy

1589
01:03:30,349 --> 01:03:28,799
show and whatever spins off of it so all

1590
01:03:32,170 --> 01:03:30,359
those podcasts that have been asking me

1591
01:03:34,490 --> 01:03:32,180
to be a guest well now I'm available

1592
01:03:36,530 --> 01:03:34,500
also more than ever people think about

1593
01:03:38,450 --> 01:03:36,540
throwing down on the THC money bomb or

1594
01:03:42,049 --> 01:03:38,460
picking up one of the conspiracies at

1595
01:03:44,569 --> 01:03:42,059
conspiraties Dot net I got a whole bunch

1596
01:03:46,910 --> 01:03:44,579
of new designs I'm very excited about

1597
01:03:48,349 --> 01:03:46,920
printing now that I have the time the

1598
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:48,359
money bombs almost at five hundred

1599
01:03:53,809 --> 01:03:50,880
dollars and one of you is going to be

1600
01:03:55,970 --> 01:03:53,819
getting half of that just for being the

1601
01:03:58,010 --> 01:03:55,980
awesome you that you are can you hear it

1602
01:03:59,930 --> 01:03:58,020
in my voice I've never been happier

1603
01:04:01,730 --> 01:03:59,940
follow your passions people the Internet

1604
01:04:04,309 --> 01:04:01,740
connects Us in ways that we never

1605
01:04:06,829 --> 01:04:04,319
imagined and I think the tide is turning

1606
01:04:08,750 --> 01:04:06,839
towards small business and entrepreneurs

1607
01:04:10,490 --> 01:04:08,760
and away from the big corporate

1608
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:10,500
monstrosities it's a beautiful thing

1609
01:04:13,849 --> 01:04:12,480
maybe that's part of the Awakening I'm

1610
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:13,859
telling you people there's a whole world

1611
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:15,599
of folks out there just waiting to help